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16Mar/110

Nightmarch

Nightmarch, foaled in 1925 was an outstanding New Zealand bred Thoroughbred racehorse known as The Kiwi. He won the New Zealand Derby and Dunedin Cup as a three-year-old before going to Australia where he became the first horse to win both the Melbourne Cup (defeating Phar Lap) and Cox Plate in the same year, as well as other Principal races.

He was by Night Raid, the sire of Phar Lap, out of the good racemare and broodmare, Marsa (1911) by Martian, a mare that traced to Manto. Marsa produced five foals, all of which raced and were winners.

Racing record

As a two-year-old he had eight starts and won two, the Dunedin J.C. Juvenile (by two lengths) and Hopeful Handicaps, having dead heated with Full Feather in the latter race.

Nightmarch was then sold privately to Alan Louisson, and won the Canterbury Linwood Handicap, New Zealand Derby, Marton Cup, Dunedin Cup, and Great Autumn Handicap for him when he was a three-year-old.[2]

In the spring of 1929, Louisson took Nightmarch to Sydney where he was unplaced in his first start at Rosehill, New South Wales. The big betting punter, Eric Connolly offered £10,000 for Nightmarch (which was rejected) after a betting plunge by others, had been made on Nightmarch’s Metropolitan Handicap winning chances. Connolly instead became the horse’s “campaign manager” and his training was then altered to suit the one mile of the AJC Epsom Handicap instead of the 13 furlongs of the Metropolitan Handicap. A big betting plunge succeeded then when Nightmarch won the Tattersall's Spring Handicap.[3] A Metropolitan Handicap start agreed upon and was won by Loquacious (a sister to Windbag) with Nightmarch, who carried 9 st. 12 lbs. (75.5 kg), a ½ length away in second place. After the race Connolly received numerous threatening phone calls, some indicating possible personal injury.[4]

Nightmarch firmed from 20-1 to 3-1 favourite before he won the AJC Epsom Handicap (carrying 9 stone 4 pounds). Following this he won the Randwick Plate, the W S Cox Plate and the Melbourne Cup (after another huge betting plunge by Connolly, which netted him at least £100,000) with two pounds over weight-for-age from Phar Lap.[5] After that, until the end of his long career, Nightmarch was seldom unplaced. In Dunedin, New Zealand Nightmarch won the James Hazlett Gold Cup and back again in New South Wales won the Rawson Stakes and AJC Autumn Stakes (defeating Amounis). During his four-year-old season he had a total of 16 starts for 8 wins, 3 seconds and 4 thirds.[6]

As a five-year-old he placed third to Amounis and Phar Lap in the Warwick Stakes and was also third in the Canterbury Stakes. In his next four starts he ran second to Phar Lap each time—in the Chelmsford Stakes, Hill Stakes, AJC Spring Stakes, and Craven Plate. Back in New Zealand he won the New Zealand Cup and Canterbury Cup and was second in the GG Stead Memorial Gold Cup before winning the Trentham Gold Cup and Awapuni Cup, and ended his fourth racing season with a second at Canterbury, New Zealand, in the CJC Challenge Stakes, conceding the winner 43 pounds.[1]

At his first start as a six-year-old Nightmarch was second in the James Hazlett Gold Cup. Back in Sydney, Ammon Ra defeated him into second place in both the Rawson Stakes and AJC Chipping Norton Stakes. His won his next two races, the AJC Autumn Stakes and AJC Cumberland Stakes, which he won from Veilmond on each occasion. In the A.J.C. Plate he was unplaced to Veilmond but finished the racing year by again winning the Awapuni Cup.[7] [1]

As a seven-year-old Nightmarch did not win again, although he was second to Peter Pan by half a length in the Rosehill Hill Stakes next spring. His last stake-earning was third place behind Veilmond in the AJC Spring Stakes.

Summary

Nightmarch was the first horse to win both the Melbourne Cup (beating Phar Lap) and Cox Plate in the same year (1929), a feat repeated by Phar Lap the following year (1930), fellow New Zealand racehorse Rising Fast in 1954, Saintly in 1996 and Makybe Diva in 2005. Overall he had 69 starts for 23½ wins (including a dead heat), 18 seconds and 11 thirds for £32,116. At the time the two greats Gloaming and Nightmarch were considered New Zealand's true champions.[2]

Stud record

Nightmarch stood at stud in New Zealand, where his matings with the Limond mare Praise produced these important winners:

  • Regal Praise (won ARC Great Northern Oaks and ARC Great Northern St. Leger Stakes)
  • Representative (AvJC Avondale Guineas, ARC Great Northern Guineas and AvJC Avondale Cup)
  • Russian Ballet (ARC Great Northern Champagne Stakes and Wanganui Guineas)
  • Serenata (WRC Summer Handicap and ARC New Zealand Cup)[8]

He the sire of winners of more than £110,000 in stakes and died in October 1954, aged twenty-nine years old.

References

  1. ^ a b c Pring, Peter; "Analysis of Champion Racehorses", The Thoroughbred Press, Sydney, 1977, ISBN 0-908133-00-6
  2. ^ a b Barrie, Douglas M., "The Australian Bloodhorse, Angus & Robertson, Sydney, 1956
  3. ^ SMH: Eric Connolly played the Melbourne Cup and won - big-time, writes Max Presnell Retrieved 2010-9-18
  4. ^ Cavanough, Maurice, The Melbourne Cup, Jack Pollard P/L, North Sydney, 1976
  5. ^ Bookmakers did not wake up to Nighmarch plunge, p. 30, Racetrack magazine, April 1982
  6. ^ ADB: Connolly, Eric Alfred (1880 - 1944) Retrieved 2010-9-18
  7. ^ ASB: Nightmarch (NZ) - wins Retrieved 2010-9-18
  8. ^ ASB: Nightmarch (NZ) – SW progeny Retrieved 2010-9-18

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13Oct/100

Thorne–Hawking–Preskill bet

Kip Thorne

 

The Thorne–Hawking–Preskill bet refers to a public bet on the outcome of the black hole information paradox made in 1997 by physics theorists Kip Thorne, Stephen Hawking and John Preskill.

Thorne and Hawking argued that since general relativity made it impossible for black holes to radiate, and lose information, the mass-energy and information carried by Hawking Radiation must be "new", and must not originate from inside the black hole event horizon. Since this contradicted the idea under quantum mechanics of microcausality, quantum mechanics would need to be rewritten.

Stephen Hawking

Preskill argued the opposite, that since quantum mechanics suggests that the information emitted by a black hole relates to information that fell in at an earlier time, the view of black holes given by general relativity must be modified in some way.

The winner of the bet would receive an encyclopedia of the losers choice from them.

In 2004, Hawking announced that he was conceding the bet, and that he now believed that black hole horizons should fluctuate and leak information, in doing so providing Preskill with a copy of Total Baseball, The Ultimate Baseball Encyclopedia.[1] Comparing the useless information obtainable from a black hole to "burning an encyclopedia", Hawking later joked, "I gave John an encyclopedia of baseball, but maybe I should just have given him the ashes."[2]

Thorne, however, remained unconvinced of Hawking's proof and declined to contribute to the award.[3] As of 2008, Hawking's argument that he has solved the paradox has not yet been accepted by the community, and a consensus has not yet been reached that Hawking has provided a strong enough argument that this is in fact what happens.

John Preskill

Hawking had earlier speculated that the singularity at the centre of a black hole could form a bridge to a "baby universe," a term coined by Canadian Astrophysicist Chad Bryden, into which the lost information could pass; such theories have been very popular in science fiction. But according to Hawking's new idea, presented at the 17th International Conference on General Relativity and Gravitation, on 21 July 2004 in Dublin, Republic of Ireland, black holes eventually transmit, in a garbled form, information about all matter they swallow:

The Euclidean path integral over all topologically trivial metrics can be done by time slicing and so is unitary when analytically continued to the Lorentzian. On the other hand, the path integral over all topologically non-trivial metrics is asymptotically independent of the initial state. Thus the total path integral is unitary and information is not lost in the formation and evaporation of black holes. The way the information gets out seems to be that a true event horizon never forms, just an apparent horizon.[4]

Another older bet – about the existence of black holes – was described by Hawking as an "insurance policy" of sorts. To quote from his book A Brief History of Time:

This was a form of insurance policy for me. I have done a lot of work on black holes, and it would all be wasted if it turned out that black holes do not exist. But in that case, I would have the consolation of winning my bet, which would win me four years of the magazine Private Eye. If black holes do exist, Kip will get one year of Penthouse. When we made the bet in 1975, we were 80% certain that Cygnus was a black hole. By now, I would say that we are about 95% certain, but the bet has yet to be settled.

—Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time (1988)[5]

In the updated and expanded edition of A Brief History of Time, Hawking states that "Although the situation with Cygnus X-1 has not changed much since we made the bet in 1975, there is now so much other observational evidence in favour of black holes that I have conceded the bet. I paid the specified penalty, which was a one year subscription to Penthouse, to the outrage of Kip's liberated wife."

References

  1. ^ Hawking, S. W. (10/2005). "Information loss in black holes". Physical Review D (American Physical Society) 72 (8): 4. doi:10.1103/PhysRevD.72.084013.
  2. ^ Hawking, Stephen. "My Life in Physics".
  3. ^ Preskill, John (24 July 2004). "On Hawking's Concession". California Institute of Technology.
  4. ^ "17th International Conference". GR17.
  5. ^ Hawking, Stephen (1988). A Brief History of Time. Bantam Books. ISBN 0-553-38016-8.

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30Jul/100

The proposed second Simon-Ehrlich wager

Understanding that Simon wanted to bet again, Ehrlich and climatologist Stephen Schneider counter-offered, challenging Simon to bet on 15 current trends, betting $1000 that each will get worse (as in the previous wager) over a ten year future period.

The trends they bet would continue to worsen were:

  • The three years 2002–2004 will on average be warmer than 1992-1994.
  • There will be more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in 2004 than in 1994.
  • There will be more nitrous oxide in the atmosphere in 2004 than 1994.
  • The concentration of ozone in the lower atmosphere (the troposphere) will be greater than in 1994.
  • Emissions of the air pollutant sulfur dioxide in Asia will be significantly greater in 2004 than in 1994.
  • There will be less fertile cropland per person in 2004 than in 1994.
  • There will be less agricultural soil per person in 2004 than 1994.
  • There will be on average less rice and wheat grown per person in 2002–2004 than in 1992-1994.
  • In developing nations there will be less firewood available per person in 2004 than in 1994.
  • The remaining area of virgin tropical moist forests will be significantly smaller in 2004 than in 1994.
  • The oceanic fisheries harvest per person will continue its downward trend and thus in 2004 will be smaller than in 1994.
  • There will be fewer plant and animal species still extant in 2004 than in 1994.
  • More people will die of AIDS in 2004 than in 1994.
  • Between 1994 and 2004, sperm cell counts of human males will continue to decline and reproductive disorders will continue to increase.
  • The gap in wealth between the richest 10% of humanity and the poorest 10% will be greater in 2004 than in 1994.

Simon declined Ehrlich and Schneider's offer to bet, and used the following analogy to explain why he did so:

Let me characterize their offer as follows. I predict, and this is for real, that the average performances in the next Olympics will be better than those in the last Olympics. On average, the performances have gotten better, Olympics to Olympics, for a variety of reasons. What Ehrlich and others says is that they don't want to bet on athletic performances, they want to bet on the conditions of the track, or the weather, or the officials, or any other such indirect measure.

Simon's thesis is that humanity's life-style will continue to improve, and several of the points of Ehrlich's second bet may increase for wholly benign reasons. For instance, the prediction of less agricultural soil per capita is a trend that Simon observed in The Ultimate Resource which Simon attributed to long-term rises in agricultural productivity.

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14May/101

Why Ehrlich lost in Simon-Ehrlich wager

According to Paul Ehrlich's website:

In 1980, Julian Simon repeatedly challenged environmental scientists to bet against him on trends in prices of commodities, asserting that humanity would never run out of anything... Paul and the other scientists knew that the five metals in the proposed wager were not critical indicators and said so at the time... They emphasized that the depletion of so-called renewable resources — environmental resources such as soils, forests, species diversity, and groundwater — is much more indicative of the deteriorating state of society's life-support systems... Nonetheless, after consulting with many colleagues, Paul and Berkeley physicists John Harte and John Holdren accepted Simon's challenge in late 1980...[1]

It's not clear if Ehrlich consulted with economists. If he had, the flaw in using commodity prices as the best way to understand biophysical limits might have become obvious. Many economists understand the principle of substitution and the dynamic influence of technology with respect to commodity prices. For example, in the absence of any new technologies, copper prices would indeed be expected to increase as growing economies demanded more copper to meet the needs of expanding communications networks and plumbing infrastructure. Technological changes mitigated much of this expected demand as fiber optics replaced copper wire networks and various plastics replaced the once ubiquitous copper pipes throughout the construction industry.

Julian Simon won because the price of three of the five metals went down in absolute terms and all five of the metals fell in price in inflation-adjusted terms,[1][2] with both tin and tungsten falling by more than half. So, per the terms of the wager, Ehrlich paid Simon the difference in price between the same quantity of metals in 1980 and 1990 (which was $576.07). The prices of all five metals increased between 1950 and 1975, but Ehrlich believes three of the five went down during the 1980s because of the price of oil doubling in 1979, and because of a worldwide recession in the early 1980s.

Yet, it is significant that, according to an article in Wired:

All of [Ehrlich's] grim predictions had been decisively overturned by events. Ehrlich was wrong about higher natural resource prices, about "famines of unbelievable proportions" occurring by 1975, about "hundreds of millions of people starving to death" in the 1970s and '80s, about the world "entering a genuine age of scarcity." In 1990, for his having promoted "greater public understanding of environmental problems," Ehrlich received a MacArthur Foundation Genius Award." [Simon] always found it somewhat peculiar that neither the Science piece nor his public wager with Ehrlich nor anything else that he did, said, or wrote seemed to make much of a dent on the world at large. For some reason he could never comprehend, people were inclined to believe the very worst about anything and everything; they were immune to contrary evidence just as if they'd been medically vaccinated against the force of fact. Furthermore, there seemed to be a bizarre reverse-Cassandra effect operating in the universe: whereas the mythical Cassandra spoke the awful truth and was not believed, these days "experts" spoke awful falsehoods, and they were believed. Repeatedly being wrong actually seemed to be an advantage, conferring some sort of puzzling magic glow upon the speaker.[3]

Exponential population growth cannot continue indefinitely for any species, whether it exists as microbes in a petri dish, wild salmon at sea, caribou in the taiga, or a global human society. However, world population is no longer growing exponentially; it has been decelerating for the last half century or so, and UN projections show that it may actually decline after 2040.[4][5]

Simon offered to raise the wager to $20,000 and to use any resources at any time that Ehrlich preferred. Ehrlich countered with a challenge to bet that temperatures would increase in the future.[1] The two were unable to reach an agreement on the terms of a second wager before Simon died.

Inflation-adjusted price movements of the commodities in the wager between Simon and Ehrlich may be seen in the larger 1950–2002 context in the following chart. Prices for these five commodities were generally rising from 1960 up until 1978, and generally falling thereafter.[6]

References

  1. ^ a b c d "Center for Conservation biology". Stanford.edu. 2005-03-16.
  2. ^ [1]
  3. ^ Regis, Ed (February 1997). "The Doomslayer". Wired 5 (2).
  4. ^ Population Division, UNDESA (2004). World Population to 2300. New York: United Nations.
  5. ^ Cobb, Loren (October 2006). "Population Implosion". The Quaker Economist 6 (#149).
  6. ^ Kelly, Thomas D; Matos, Grecia R (2005). "Historical Statistics for Mineral and Material Commodities in the United States". U.S. Geological Survey Data Series 140. U.S. Geological Survey.

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30Mar/101

Simon-Ehrlich wager

Julian L. Simon and Paul Ehrlich entered in a famous wager in 1980, betting on a mutually agreed upon measure of resource scarcity over the decade leading up to 1990. Simon had Ehrlich choose five of several commodity metals. Ehrlich chose 5 metals: copper, chromium, nickel, tin, and tungsten. Simon bet that their prices would go down. Ehrlich bet they would go up.[note 1] Ehrlich ultimately lost the bet, and all five commodities that were selected as the basis for the wager continued to trend downward until 2002, when metal prices generally began to increase[1] and at least the price of copper,[2] tin,[3] and nickel[4] increased.

In 1968, Ehrlich was the author of a popular book, The Population Bomb, which argued that mankind was facing a demographic catastrophe with the rate of population growth quickly outstripping growth in the supply of food and resources. Simon, a libertarian, was highly skeptical of such claims.

You could name your own terms: select any raw material you wanted — copper, tin, whatever — and select any date in the future, "any date more than a year away," and Simon would bet that the commodity's price on that date would be lower than what it was at the time of the wager...

Ehrlich and his colleagues picked five metals that they thought would undergo big price rises: chromium, copper, nickel, tin, and tungsten. Then, on paper, they bought $200 worth of each, for a total bet of $1,000, using the prices on September 29, 1980, as an index. They designated September 29, 1990, 10 years hence, as the payoff date. If the inflation-adjusted prices of the various metals rose in the interim, Simon would pay Ehrlich the combined difference; if the prices fell, Ehrlich et al. would pay Simon...

Between 1980 and 1990, the world's population grew by more than 800 million, the largest increase in one decade in all of history. But by September 1990, without a single exception, the price of each of Ehrlich's selected metals had fallen, and in some cases had dropped through the floor. Chrome, which had sold for $3.90 a pound in 1980, was down to $3.70 in 1990. Tin, which was $8.72 a pound in 1980, was down to $3.88 a decade later.[5]

As a result, in October 1990, Paul Ehrlich mailed Julian Simon a check for $576.07 to settle the wager in Simon's favor.

Other wagers

In 1996, Simon bet $1000 with David South that the inflation-adjusted price of timber would decrease in the following 5 years. Simon paid out early on the bet in 1997 (before his death in 1998) based on his expectation that prices would remain above 1996 levels (which they did).[6]

In recent years, there have been many bets and bet challenges related to global warming.[7][8] For instance, J. Scott Armstrong challenged Al Gore to a climate-related bet in 2007 [9] that focused on year-to-year variation in temperatures but not on betting over longer term changes in global average temperatures.[10]

Notes

  1. ^ The face-off occurred in the pages of Social Science Quarterly, where Simon challenged Ehrlich to put his money where his mouth was. In response to Ehrlich's published claim that "If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000" — a proposition Simon regarded as too silly to bother with — Simon countered with "a public offer to stake US$10,000 ... on my belief that the cost of non-government-controlled raw materials (including grain and oil) will not rise in the long run."

References

  1. ^ http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=metals-price-index&months=120
  2. ^ File:Copper Price History USD.png
  3. ^ http://www.lme.co.uk/tin_graphs.asp
  4. ^ http://www.lme.co.uk/non-ferrous/index.asp
  5. ^ Regis, Ed (February 1997). "The Doomslayer". Wired (Issue 5.02). Archived from the original on 2008-05-18.
  6. ^ "The Simon South Bet On Pine Sawtimber". Forestry.auburn.edu. 1998-02-08.
  7. ^ Nature
  8. ^ "Betting on Climate Change: It's time to put up or shut up - Reason Magazine". Reason.com. 2005-06-08.
  9. ^ [2]
  10. ^ "Green and Armstrong’s scientific forecast". RealClimate.

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18Mar/100

Precedent and legacy of the Simon-Ehrlich wager

This bet is admitted by both parties to be a good-natured resurrection of the same spirit and tradition behind the famous Simon-Ehrlich wager which spanned the years 1980-1990.

Tierney was a life-long friend and protégé of the late Julian Simon (the winner of the Simon-Ehrlich wager), and eagerly embraced the opportunity to follow in his mentor's footsteps. Tierney is (as was Simon) an avowed Cornucopian, believing in the ingenuity of humankind to adapt and improvise. Meanwhile, Simmons' "Twilight in the Desert" seemed to Tierney to be cut from the same gloom-and-doom cloth as Paul R. Ehrlich's The Population Bomb, a book published in 1968 which later became the impetus for the Simon-Ehrlich wager. When that well-renowned wager was settled in 1990, Simon's boomster victory over Ehrlich's doomster philosophies was heralded as a triumph for Cornucopian economics.

Tierney made unabashed reference to that infamous wager as he gave his apologetic for embarking upon this redux of it:

I didn't try to argue with [Simmons] about Saudi Arabia, because I know next to nothing about oil production there or anywhere else. I'm just following the advice of a mentor and friend, the economist Julian Simon: if you find anyone willing to bet that natural resource prices are going up, take him for all you can.

The inclusion of Rita Simon

After the bet was agreed upon (but before it was made public) Tierney immediately called Rita Simon, the widow of Julian Simon. She delightedly joined with Tierney's effort to carry on with her late husband's legacy, and even financed one half of Tierney’s obligation to the bet by contributing USD$2,500.00 of her own.

Ongoing updates

The price-per-barrel of crude oil is being heavily scrutinized by oil industry watchers aware of this bet. Many peak oil websites make frequent reference to the Simmons-Tierney bet[1] and some have already begun daily tabulations and adjusted-for-inflation charts on the latest price-per-barrel. (The price-per-barrel of oil at the time of the bet — August 2005 — was around $65.00. The price as of the initial publishing of this article — May 10, 2008 — was $125.96; the record high of $147 in July 2008 was in large part attributable to a weak U.S. dollar.)

With the dramatic drop in demand and prices for many commodities in the economic crisis of 2008, the average per-barrel price for December 2008 reached a post-spike low of $40.88, then steadily climbed back to an average of $78.33 for the month of January 2010.[2]

Both Simmons and Tierney (as of this writing) have publicly availed their e-mail addresses with a formal and open invitation to anyone else in the general population who might like to make similar wagers.

References

  1. ^ Update on the Simmons-Tierney Bet, theoildrum.com, by Stuart Staniford on March 17, 2008
  2. ^ Spot Prices for Crude Oil and Petroleum Products, WTI - Cushing, Oklahoma. Retrieved 2010-02-26.

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22Feb/101

Simmons–Tierney bet

The Simmons-Tierney bet is a bet made in August 2005 between Houston banking executive Matthew R. Simmons and New York Times columnist John Tierney.[1] The stakes of the bet are US$10,000.00. The subject of the bet is the year-end average of the daily price-per-barrel of crude oil for the entire calendar year of 2010. The bet is to be settled on January 1, 2011.

Simmons and Tierney had never met before. But their association began after Simmons had been interviewed by a journalist colleague of Tierney's, Peter Maass, for a New York Times Magazine article called "The Breaking Point," published on August 21, 2005. The article heavily emphasized the doomsday claims of Simmons latest book Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy. That book is his prophecy of imminent global catastrophe which he asserts will be triggered by the allegedly soon-coming "peaking" of Saudi oil output, and the supposed domino effect of destruction that he says will subsequently be wreaked upon the global economy. Tierney's dubious reaction to the article prompted him to call Simmons, introduce himself, and ask Simmons to back up his claims with cash. The friendly wager was immediately worked out over the phone.

Terms of the bet

Of the many claims that Simmons made in the Times article, his prediction of a tripling in the price-per-barrel of crude struck Tierney as perhaps the most incredible. In the Peter Maass article, Simmons was quoted as saying:

"We're going to look back at history and say $55 a barrel was cheap," [Simmons] said, recalling a TV interview in which he predicted that a barrel might hit triple digits. [Simmons] said that the anchor scoffed, in disbelief, "A hundred dollars?" Simmons replied, "I wasn't talking about low triple digits."

So Tierney focused upon that one detail and the two men fashioned the bet accordingly. Their final agreement was a commitment to tabulate every closing price-per-barrel of oil for each market day of 2010, then average out those prices for the entire year from January 1 through December 31, (adjusted for inflation to 2005 prices). If the year-end adjusted average comes out to $200.00 or more per barrel, Mr. Simmons wins. If it averages out to less than $200.00, Mr. Tierney wins. The winner takes the entire pot of US$10,000.00, plus interest ($5,000.00 from both parties, currently sitting in escrow).

The bet was made public just two days later in an op-ed piece by Tierney published in the New York Times, August 23, 2005 called "The $10,000.00 Question".

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References

  1. ^ The $10,000 Question, The New York Times, By JOHN TIERNEY, Published: August 23, 2005

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25Jan/100

Carr–Benkler wager

Yochai Benkler speaking at UC Berkeley Boalt Hall School of law on 27 April 2006.

Nicholas Carr speaking at the VINT Symposium held in Utrecht, Netherlands on June 17, 2008.

The Carr-Benkler wager is between Yochai Benkler and Nicholas Carr about whether the most influential sites on the Internet will be peer-produced or price-incentivized systems.

History

The wager was proposed by Benkler in July 2006 in a comment to a blog post where Carr criticizes Benkler's views about volunteer peer-production. Benkler believes that by 2010 the major sites will have content provided by volunteers in what Benkler calls commons-based peer production, as in Wikipedia, reddit, Flickr and YouTube. Carr argues that the trend will favor content provided by paid workers, as in most traditional news outlets.[1][2][3][4]

References

  1. ^ "What is the Carr-Benkler wager?". The Guardian. "On the two sides: Nicholas Carr, a former executive editor of the Harvard Business Review; and Yochai Benkler, a professor of law at Yale University whose book, The Wealth of Networks: How Social Production Transforms Markets and Freedom, suggests that new types of collaboration let people be more productive than profit-seeking ventures."
  2. ^ Fox, Justin (February 15, 2007). "Getting Rich off Those Who Work for Free.". Time (magazine). "In other fields, it's not so clear. In a critique of Benkler's work last summer, business writer Nicholas Carr speculated that Web 2.0 media sites like Digg, Flickr and YouTube are able to rely on volunteer contributions simply because a market has yet to emerge to price this "new kind of labor." He and Benkler then entered into what has come to be widely known in Web circles as the "Carr-Benkler wager": a bet on whether, by 2011, such sites will be driven primarily by volunteers or by professionals."
  3. ^ Carr, Nicholas. "Calacanis's wallet and the Web 2.0 dream.".
  4. ^ Benkler, Yochai. "Benkler on Calacanis's wallet.".

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